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Goku vs. Darkseid by phil-cho Goku vs. Darkseid by phil-cho
Goku vs. Darkseid!!
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MegatronDX Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Goku would get turned into dust by him!
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SSJ4Truntanks Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2015
:icondarkseidplz: "Super Saiyan or otherwise, you're merely a mortal and I AM A GOD!"

Yup, I think I'm done here.
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FrostKnight1 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
darkseid would blend him into pink smoothie in a nanosecond....
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Crp11 Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this isn't really a fair fight, all darkseid would need to do is hit goku once with the omega effect and wipe him from existance
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IizaMuggyhealer Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2015
and All Goku has to do is go Super Saiyan 3 and beat Darkseid into a puddle of bone and blood
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2015
SSJ3 isn't even close to Superman, and Darkseid is a good match for Kal
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nobodyofdistinction Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2015  New Deviant
Teh internetz is tired of hearing about goku vs. superman. The answer is it depends entirely on which version of superman meets goku at what point in his life and the writers' level of insanity at the moment. Obviously young goku couldn't handle any version of superman. But there are versions of superman which are far weaker than others, like in the wb cartoon, he is explicitly portrayed as being oh maybe 1000 times stronger/more resistant to injury than a human of the same build, people give him a lot of trouble just with heavy artillery in that, a high caliper bullet is like maybe a beesting to him, and in not just the wb cartoon but several movies he really, really struggles to just catch a falling airplane, which would weigh what, tens of tons, so maybe only 500 times stronger than a human? Hard to say exactly there since it also involves his levitation power, I can lift several hundred pounds and catch tens of pounds but I can't fly to catch it. But Goku can blow up a damn planet. Yet a few hundred times Earth's gravity is a strenuous ordeal for him? But in superman 4, superman moves the whole moon. And then there's the whole pre and post crisis silliness. Then I don't know if you noticed this, but once you have the fight with freeza, they have no way to actually even depict goku's further increase in power, because they were already blowing up planets then, but all they can do is have the next villain come along and "say" that they're much stronger than the last. So Trunks comes along and easily kills Freeza and then gets trounced by the androids, and then the androids get trounced by Cell, and Cell trounced by ssj2 Gohan, and Gohan trounced by Majin Boo and then Boo trounced by Vegeto? What does that even MEAN there at the end? They certainly can't portray the explosions as any bigger than they were already with the fight against Freeza, so how do you even express that the level actually goes up from there in any actual tangible way? The problem is there is no consistency and ultimately that none of it makes a lick of sense in either franchise.
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2015
You want inconsistency? Every new Saga, Goku is nowhere near planet buster levels of blasting and yet is stronger that at least one
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nobodyofdistinction Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2015  New Deviant
Well that's actually what I was already saying. They have no way to even depict "stronger", so they keep it the same and just say it's more. And the reason he can't be throwing around wads of energy that are planet buster size is because the planet is where he's got to fight, if he's capable of planet buster blasts and so is his opponent, it'll be a short fight if they actually blow up the planet they're on. They tried that once, and the best way they could deal with that was saying that the planet would explode in 5 minutes and then having that "5 minutes" last like 5 episodes. So what do they do from there? Just blasts that can knock down a little pile of rocks accompanied with the claim that it's more powerful than anything they've ever encountered before.
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2015
The five minute thing lasted 10 episodes! Not to mention the formula makes the series boring.

There is no sense of scale. There is nothing to make me hope for the heroes as I cannot tell how far they are from being stronger that the villain, and it doesn't matter as the next villain is somehow even more powerful!

Take the CW Flash series, Reverse Flash has been shown to be much faster than Flash, but wasn't unbeatable. They even kept the Speedsters from being too fast, Barry not cracking mach two until the end of the series.
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nobodyofdistinction Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2015  New Deviant
What are you even arguing against? 5 episodes, 10 episodes, it's all the same and it's been almost 20 years since I watched the damned thing. That is an unimportant point. You are in agreement that it was a failed formula as a plot hook. It being 10 episodes only proves it's an even bigger failure. The same is true of your second paragraph. Are you just trying to agree with me, that these problems serve as further evidence that Superman and Goku can't be compared because even internally within either franchise (but especially dbz) it's complete nonsense then? Because that was the only point I was making from the beginning and you just provided an argument in favor of what I was saying, not of something against it. I don't know much about the flash, the only I know of the flash is from the justice league cartoon of 10-15 years ago and the live acted tv show which I watched in 1990 or so, I've never read the comic. I watched dbz before it was dubbed by funimation, I watched the christopher reeve movies, I watched a few warner brothers cartoons, and I've heard other people talk about the meaning of pre-crisis and post-crisis superman, that's all I know about it, and even from that it's obvious it's all gobbledygook and the answer to the goku vs superman debate is that there IS no answer.
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IizaMuggyhealer Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2015
I guess it's a matter of opinion
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2015
It really isn't
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IizaMuggyhealer Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2015
see my previous comment for future replies 
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2015
Tell me how SSJ3 is even close to Superman, when SSJ4 was closer to a fair fight
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IizaMuggyhealer Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2015
because SSJ3 can fight a guy who was blowing up planets with a single attack, whereas Superman struggles to fight a guy with money
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londify Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015
darkseid would be a better challenge to goku cause he is stronger than superman but anyway goku would win surely
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FrostKnight1 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
no. darkseid would blast him into microscopic ash-mites in a sec...
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WindamX Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
Now putting aside analysis of the characters. This is an awesome picture. You do amazing work!
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WindamX Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
Measuring the two straight up, this isn't even a fight. Darkseid is Goku's punching bag at best. You can try and justify or measure their powers anyway you want, but between these two its always going to speed. Darkseid wouldn't even be able to see Goku's movements, and unless he turns his attention to destroying the planet Darkseid's incredible power is rendered a moot point. Meanwhile Goku in addition to having the overwhelming speed advantage possesses more then enough power to harm Darkseid.

This isn't a fight Goku would mess around in either, as one look at Darkseid would set Goku on full guard. This fight ends with Darkseid retreating through a boom tube after being thoroughly humiliated. Perhaps Darkseid returns with something underhanded right off the bat like the Agony Matrix from DC Animated for the next round, but the first encounter between these two undoubtably goes to Goku.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015
dude aginst darkside goku does not stand a chance.
is immortal, can destroy planets just by looking at them, can crush planets literaly with his will alone, can create worlds on eteral death, cna mind fuck goku just by saying words, has infinte speed and endurence.
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phil-cho Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
If I wrote a story about Darkseid entering the DBZ universe, I'd beef him up some how. All you have to do is insert some sci-fi mumbo jumbo about the atmosphere in the DBZ universe making him stronger, and BAM, Darkseid is stronger than he usually is. What's a DBZ fight without the bad guy being stronger than the last guy? Even if you're right about all that stuff you've mentioned, that makes for a terribly boring story. If this fight were to take place, I'd make sure Goku was at a disadvantage some how. In the battle between good and evil, it's always harder for the good to triumph - making it that much more satisfying when the bad guy loses. I have no doubt Goku would win by the end of it, but he better have a hard time getting there.. know what I'm saying? Story is KING!
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2015
How about that he can absorb the god ki out of Goku due to his physiology
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WindamX Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015
I agree completely. If you did write something of that nature, I'd love to see it. You've got amazing artistic talent, if you could combine that with comic book storytelling or something like that, all I'd have to say is the sky is the limit!
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ZDForrest Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2015  Student Filmographer
I'd pay money to see that fight
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Owyn-Ross Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015  Professional General Artist
How about, Bills vs Doomsday?
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theTruthson Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015
Goku wins

Karate Kid beat pre crisis superman

Goku is karate kid on steriods

Even dc comics knows martial artist like goku beat superman

Darksied would get owned


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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2015
Solid logic(!)
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elperico13 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice piece, and damn sucks for darkseid , not even a contest.
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mikdiesel Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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THE-DEADLIEST-DOGE Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014   General Artist
Poor Goku. Darkseid's gonna absolutely wreck his shit.
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megaherofactory Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015
nah
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THE-DEADLIEST-DOGE Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015   General Artist
I'm pretty sure the man who fell to Superman will fall to the man that manhandles Superman.
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megaherofactory Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2015
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THE-DEADLIEST-DOGE Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2015   General Artist
Goku will most likely lose to Darkseid, as Goku lost to Superman who loses to Darkseid.
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megaherofactory Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2015
? for real in ssj 4 goku would NOT lose to superman wtf?
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THE-DEADLIEST-DOGE Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2015   General Artist
If we're including SSJ4 Goku than we'll also include 60s Superman.
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megaherofactory Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2015
sure OKE mystic gohan will crush 60s superman
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deviantfemale Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2014
in all seriousness though... darkseid wouldn't even feel that kick letalone bleed from it
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roun12 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
May I refer to Battle of Gods where a Super Saiyan 3 Goku punched a hole in King Kai's planet which has a density of 3.5 white dwarf stars. Even as a Super Saiyan 1 Goku would still be strong enough to punch a hole in the sun.
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Geminice Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
Man f*** Superman VS Goku THIS will be a real battle!
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014
Darkside wins
he beats goku hard or makes him a slave
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mack901 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. Darkseid has to capture goku first and you and I both know darksied on his best day or any of his STRONGEST minions could never capture goku and keep him in custody for his mind to be mental controlled thats literally not gonna happen 2. Goku is the kind of guy who plays dumb until its time to get serious, goku can literally read minds as shown in the freeza saga and goku can literally since beings moves faster than speed on light so he also counter attacks at a ultra speed lvl with out going super sayain. 3.Goku also fights, moves,flies,and thinks faster than the speed of light and can breath in space just like barrdock also he hits with more force than a world crushing meteorite as he known for his technique called the meteor smash wich devastates super opponents, plus goku is ultra durable he has all these capablilities without transforming darkseid would be in trouble if ever step to goku literally
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
1. does not need to all he has to do is saw a word and goku is his slave
2. goku can only read minds by touching them, and goku trying to read darksides mind is not going to happen, not only is his mind proected by his own powers but can ez destroy goku if he tryes to get close to him.
3. deakside is not only stronger then superman but faster, smarter and more powerful and immortal.

".Goku also fights, moves,flies,and thinks faster than the speed of light"
sorry but not true goku can move fast but not at FTL, and instant transmission does not cout as that is not speed but an ability, dearkside has survived in the vacume if space and falling into a sun, just being around him does time it self shatter and is under his control, he has stood on world that was destroyed and still did not feel a thing.
goku is fucked in so many ways
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mack901 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Goku has been fighting at an instant level faster than the speeds of light since he fought vegeta in the saiyan saga and freeza in the freeza saga goku instant transmission technique is just to place him any where universe at wil instantly and goku can fight, move,fly, think, and since beings attacks at  instant speeds faster than the speed of light wich darksied cannot heck darkseid can barely keep up with the flash so how the heck is he going to keep up with goku plus goku can hit with the force of an earth crushing meteor.        

.1 Darkseid is not that invulnerable as you may think he's been man handled by supergirl , had his eye rip out with a crowbar an bleed like a mortal, has been hit with lightening speed puches and shows that he's in pain by the flash whos a human with no super strength flash puches would not phase goku, and he was floor by shazam with lightening punch.

.2 Darkseid cant fight faster than the speed of light, 

3.Darkseid needs a boom toom to teleport were goku dosent, goku can literally move so fast its instant

.4 For darkseid to mind control some one he has to capture and torture them first and that's definitely not going to happend with goku.

.5. The evidence you have is simply flawed and a opion darkseid has died before I have the dc encyclopedia that proves darkseid to be a mortal with god like powers and some of the powers/abilities you listed aren't even there the list of darksieds powers/abilities that states

Immensely strong - so is goku if not stronger.

Controls enimies and underlings by fear- so darkseids mind control would never work on goku cause darkseid could never capture goku and goku would never fear him. 

Apparently invulnerable - so is goku.

Omega beams, powerful rays that incinerate, or transport beings. The Omega effect has no known limitations and can dissolve any organic being - goku have survived blasts even stronger than omega beams and he's not your average being his invulnerabtlity is up there with super man or higher.

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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
"instant transmission technique is just to place him any where universe at wil instantly"
its an ability like nightcrawer's teleport so its not speed, as well goku cant use it in hand on hand.

" wich darksied cannot heck darkseid can barely keep up with the flash so how the heck is he going to keep up with goku plus goku can hit with the force of an earth crushing meteor."
dude darkside has fought aginst superman who is faster than goku and was still able to keep up with him and kick his ass.
dude darkside has stood on planets that was destroyed around him and was fine, has stood in the hart of the sun when he fought aginst the highfather of new gensis, gokus "earth crushing meteor"  which is nowhere even close to the claim would not hurt him.

1.darkside has never fought aginst supergirl.
shazam never fought darkside, but is since the magic version of superman would loose as well.
darkside in a firepit which is hotter than the sun
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2. can and has kept up with superman who is fast as FTL

3. darkside can create boomtoob at will
hell the DC comics webside even said he can teleport at will
dc.wikia.com/wiki/Uxas_%28New_…

4.  anti life equation...does not even have to touch them

5.if you actuly had one oyu would have know that darkside only died twice, aginst the new gods of new gensis and when he was a mortal body in the final crsis.

so thank you for showing your fanwank
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mack901 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. Darkseid did get man handle by super girl know your comics son.
2. Goku dose fight at instant speed faster than light with meteor crushing blows want proof?
3.super man is fast but but goku is faster superman can fly faster than goku but can not fight as fast as goku.
4.stop looking up darkseid mini skirt that is very homo of you.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014
1. never did
2. goku strength at ssj4 could barely lift a city block, darkside has like i said stood on worlds destroyed around him and did not feel a thing.
3.dude superman has proven to move faster than goku.
4. now you are just showing how much butthurt you are as i am proving you wrong
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